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Super Saiyan God and Kaioken comparison by OriginalSuperSaiyan Super Saiyan God and Kaioken comparison by OriginalSuperSaiyan
Just for the heck of it :XD:
Comparison of the SSJ God 'transformation' and the Kaio-ken 'technique'.
These are just my opinions.
I may be completely wrong, but it's a fan's duty (and pastime) to speculate..since there's so much room for imagination!
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:iconchrisbennettsonic:
ChrisBennettSonic Featured By Owner 6 days ago
So in other words, just as there's a False Super Saiyan, there's a False Super Saiyan God now. And it's something anyone can use, possibly.


Just my opinion on the similarities between them. Just Saiyan. xDD
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Xenomaster Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2015
There is no difference/ they just turned Kaioken into a form
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DarthScyther Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2015
Then why is God Freeza golden?
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simnar Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Student Digital Artist
yes! all of this!
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
But funny thing, about you mentioning about the Kais of the 4 Quadrant Universes, King Kai of the North in the movie said that he wasn't familiar with the Super Saiyan God legend, even though the Oracle Fish might've exageratted with the premonition towards Beerus as a formidable archfoe, especially the figure looks conveiniently similar to Goku. You also made a good description based between the technique made by the Kais and the form made by 6 light hearted Saiyans.
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Adobbs14fr Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2014
What if Goku did kaioken while in ssj god form? 
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OfficialRMSOlympic Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015
HOLY SHIT THAT WOULD BE POWERFUL
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dquinlanz Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014
On a similar but separate note. Don't you think it would be cool of other characters learned Kaioken? None of the Saiyans need it, what with Super Saiyan and all, but Piccolo? Or Uub? They would be able to keep up with a SSJ2 or SSJ3 if they use a x10 or x20. And the human characters would at least be able to keep up with a base Saiyan. Toryama, make the non-Saiyans relevant again!
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silverhedgehog2009 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
 dude you don't no of humons wood be  to go past times 3    there not saiyans it could kill them  piccolo mybe ubb mybe  only after fusieng with buu do is ee him being to handle    tons of kaioken  times

 of   they used kaioken it wont make the humson  or piccolo  revlsant aigan or did you forget about bilsl he god eh said there are 11 others no humon can hoopt o mathc a god
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dquinlanz Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
I literally can't understand what you are saying.
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Kukaruto Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015
Here's a rough translation:

Dude you don't know if humans would be able to handle kaioken times 3 or 2. They're not saiyans, so their bodies may not be able to handle it as well, leading them to dying. There is a chance however that piccolo and uub (majuub) may be able to do kaioken up to kaioken times 2 or 3. 

If they used kaioken it won't make the human or piccolo (?) again, or did you forget about beerus? he is a god and said there are 11 others no human can hope to match.

Sorry I had to work with what I had.
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silverhedgehog2009 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
I said  humons wood not get back in to the light:
of they  war able to use kaioken:
or did you forget about the gods what good wood kaioken do the humons when there gods out there:
that they have to fight;

  I don't think humon can handle times 20 for kaioken
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dquinlanz Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014
To be honest, if Kaioken didn't exist, I would like SSJ God's design much more. It's distinct enough from the normal Super Saiyan to not be just a simple level up (no golden hair, golden aura, etc). Its not a golden SSJ 4 like so much of the fan art was. I like the concept of it not looking so visually impressive, like how crazy SSJ3 and SSJ4 looked compared to base Goku. It's just to similar to Kaioken. Over all, SSJ4 looks cool looking without much thought put into it, and SSJ God has a good concept, it just had poor execution.
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Yung-Reg88 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
I agree with the statement at the bottom. The two forms just look too similar...
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JustM3M0nt Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
DBZ logic thin body=immense strength, godly power i mean whis is probally 1 of the skinnest characters pn DBZ and he is supposed to be the strongest in the universe
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FlamexHunter Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013
I think they put Red hair and red ect. for Goku's comeback of kaio-ken. Even tho it's not the same they probably still wanted something like it... I rather have kaio-ken then super saiyan.
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ciofy Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013
it's not lazy even if toriyama didn't think about it.he said he wanted something simple and used a red colour because is strong.
Look at Bills,he's slim too,makes sense
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SuperVegeta71290 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
If you hadn't seen the Battle of Gods movie, King Kai saids he never heard of Super Saiyan God before so I doubt Kaio-ken anything like it.
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FlamexHunter Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013
Well had he heard of kaio-ken x1000?
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SuperVegeta71290 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
He created Kaio-ken so I am sure he knows 1000x but that would also be dangerous.
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FlamexHunter Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
kaioken has no limits... there forth if you train hard enough, you can go to a certain kaioken stronger than super saiyan god
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ciofy Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013
Only that's not practicle for saiyans.you would need kaioken x100 in base form and that's only to be equal to ssj2.
We don't know if it's possible.Plus kaioken puts alot of strain on the body,sometimes way more than ssj3.
All the other forms,even ssjg ,let you fight more!!
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silverhedgehog2009 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
 of  kaioken tiems 100  make base equal to  ssj2 then what super kaioken times 100   goku did use super kaioken on pikkon   witch goku had to be in ssj1 to do ti
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oneblena Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Hobbyist
pan is older not akira read manga gt fuck up
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JanikOokami Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013
and maybe akira toriyama did you do realise in statment when he started doing move in interview he said i thought ssj3 gokus hair was ssj2 because he forgot what ssj2 looked like, also note how bulma vegetas kid daughter who is older then pan isnt in movie. possible he forgot her.  toriyama seems to forget alot in his movies and shows sometimes
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silverhedgehog2009 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
hw can airka forget bulla him slef  he sotp workin gon movie when eh find out hw forget  sutf fant back  watch all dbz  fo he telling turh then eh shod not have forget bulla he him slef said he rewatch the seires
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013
yah..he tends to forget his own stuff....that's a surprise.
but whatevs.....better than nothing :)
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JanikOokami Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013
maybe how ever Kais and king kaios are considerd gods in away so kaio-ken name  is some what god like. how ever king kaios older then goku and saiyans so i doubt it
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UltimateKidGoku Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Kaioken literally means "God Fist" so this might be some what accurate.
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013
really?..News to me O.O
guess that explains it xD
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Nassif9000 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013  Professional General Artist
quite logical, since king kai referred to the guardian of planet vegeta in one episode (although anime only) but still, it is quite logical that he didn't want to complicate things for goku :D
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Arrancarippo Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
Dont see many people noting on it but, Despite the similarities and blah blah..I absolutely love your concept on it. The theory you used behind kaio-ken is a very cool idea. Maybe not that plausible but, surely pretty sweet to think about. It would kind of make sense. even though i dont think ive seen anyone else besides goku use the kaio-ken, which is weird lol
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
There is indeed a difference between a Kaio-Ken technique and the Super Saiyan God form, a whole lot difference. And I do like the way how you described between those two features on Goku.
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
yep...thanks..
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delvallejoel Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
You're welcome.
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Kiroku09 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have been reading all of the people on kazenshuu forums talking about how similar the forms look to one another. And all I ay is this, I can see why some people would compare them to one another, however I also see the differences. I personnally love the Super Saiyan God form and would like to see vegeta, gohan, and possibly even gogeta/vegito or gotenks attain the form myself, I think that they would look awesome in it. Anyway, if anyone om kazshuu sees this neutral regards to this topic so don't flay me...... please.
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
I think they'll reserve this form for the main characters...Vegeta must get this no matter what!....they should have made him ssj3 in the first place anyway!
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Kiroku09 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, i agree with you. it's just that if they're going to make more movies for the other 12 Gods then eventually Super Saiyan god isn't going to be enough by itself. as far as vegeta going Super Saiyan 3 in the movie goes,it should've happened...period.
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Spartan-Talon-731 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
this shows that even though they look a LITTLE similar, they're two totally different things! Love it!
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
yep.....my point exactly!!
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Spartan-Talon-731 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
yeah, it gets me mad when people are like "Oh that's Kaioken, no, there's a pretty big difference :I red hair, red out line, red eyes, black eyes
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
Well, many expected something bigger...so did I...because ultimately a 'God' transformation should have been something huge....but...this is okay too I guess. We just haven't seen it fully in action. Hopefully we get to see more of it.
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Spartan-Talon-731 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
yeah, I think having the red hair is cool
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Yawonkoi Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Student General Artist
I think that akira thinks of the real strength lies within ourselves
just like Freeza final form, he does not look very strong compared to the previous transformations
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
maybe...they're going the bleach and naruto way perhaps...
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Ukog Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
HEY! Dude IT'S FA... Fuckin awesome O_O
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
ssjgod ftw :dummy:
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Faizo-Morgana Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
i like both ssjg and kaioken

both of them are kick ass
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OriginalSuperSaiyan Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
thanks!.....yeah me too
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Faizo-Morgana Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
bro... you're awesome
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